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A monthly series of freewheeling conversations between A.C.T’s Artistic Director Pam MacKinnon, eminent theater artists, and thought leaders on where they are in the present moment.

Tune in to learn what is top of mind for some of the nation’s most curious and creative thinkers as they discuss and argue about theater and the world around them. How did we get here? What possibilities do they see ahead? How do they imagine change?

In this episodeA.C.T. Artistic Director Pam MacKinnon talks to Allen Lee Hughes, four–time Tony Award–nominated lighting designer and educator, and Jake Rodriguez, brilliant Bay Area sound designer and composer. This episode explores the "liquid design" elements of lights and sound, aesthetic approaches, origins, and legacy.